July 21, 2026
Inside 60 Years of Hollywood History with Producer Julian Schlossberg
Julian Schlossberg is an award-winning producer, distributor, and entertainment icon whose career spans over 60 years. From his early days as an executive for ABC and Paramount Pictures to founding Castle Hill Productions—one of the largest independent film distribution companies in the world—Schlossberg has been a driving force behind American cinema and theater. He has produced dozens of Broadway and off-Broadway shows, distributed masterpieces by Orson Welles and John Cassavetes, and represented monumental talents like George C. Scott and Elaine May. Today, he shares his decades of Hollywood wisdom through his memoir, Try Not to Hold It Against Me: A Producer's Life, and his hit weekly podcast, Julian Schlossberg's Movie Talk
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, the listeners of the randomness of nothing podcast, success, it's always about the person that starts at age and dreams, and then they pictures themselves doing their dreams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This man is the epitome of following his dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a former taxi driver that climbed the hills of Hollywood, Broadway, retroproducing and entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Julianne Sloshberg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Rajad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having me, and yes, I did drive a cab and it was
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second hardest job I ever had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got to get what the first is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you said this one up, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The pin boy in a bowling alley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately, for me, they didn't come too fast, so I put him in the prison for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for people with the hardest job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was the only one sober.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is awesome, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's funny how I remember one time just briefly when I never really driven through New Jersey before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The people who are like this foregone era, there were people that changed the pins of the pinball at the bowling alley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I remember one through New Jersey once and I started pumping my own gas and like you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, you can't do what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what can I do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, you can't pump your own gas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, are you like, people who are like in this era of where they still make people do certain things that you wouldn't even think of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no clue because I had never been in Jersey and I was like you can't pump your own gas dude like it was a strange side of body experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like my bad guys sorry about that when your Tony's a brand don't come out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good thing they didn't arrest you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That right, right, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was looking for Tony's a brand all over the shoulder, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, right, you know, I stopped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you started, you know, we talked before and people sometimes put their dream in the closet because they don't think it's attainable or there's not a lot of people around them that are pursuing those paths and you decided through your love of film and radio and television that young boy that said this is the venue that I'm going to go into and I'm pursuit with my heart
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please tell your story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very fortunate, Rashad, because I grew up with radio at the beginning of my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what that did would force you to use your imagination.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're out on the range with a lone ranger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're going down those stairs to Jack Benny's vault and we're conjuring up incredible exciting things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as when the advent of television became began.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was exciting for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would go down town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I lived in the Bronx.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I go downtown and I'd see the rehearsals of the Perry Colmo show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They gave tickets out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I run back home to see the show an hour later to see what they changed from the dress rehearsal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is not your typical way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of living your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, excited me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It excited me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I wanted to be part of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know what part, but I just knew I wanted to be with those people doing what I thought was exciting things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think that the beauty about that is we hear you are with your mind, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're sitting back and you're, you know, I saw, you know, your bio, where there's 14 cents, you know, movie theater tickets and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's those small things, you know, that did you have a mentor, did you have what was your in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, who did you meet?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you were like, you know, you were the first, you were the youngest movie buyer, but by watching films that it kind of gets you into that world, so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess it did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The person who was the most influential, I had no relatives in show business, but there was an incredible director, the George Lucas Steven Spielberg of his time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His name was Eidliya Kazan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very familiar with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and he was a Academy Award winner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won the Academy Award as director of on the Waterfront and Gentleman's Agreement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he discovered Marlon Brando, even Marie St. Mike, I'm with Cliff James Dean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was he was the man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to show you what kind of a weekend I must have been having, there were telephone books in those days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, let me see if he's got a listing, his cousin listed in the New York phone because I knew he lived in New York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and they were he was listed I couldn't believe it and that's not only did they have the phone number but they had the address and I believe it was 1545 Broadway anyhow and I stayed outside first I went into the building to see what the office number was but there was no
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[SPEAKER_01]: directory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I stood outside the building because I couldn't find the building for a while because it was behind the cashiers booth of the Victoria Theatre on 46th Street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say, I would go buy it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't find them finally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the entrance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I waited and he came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was afraid to talk to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I spotted the follow him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: up Broadway, an all the way to 70 summer street where he went into a brownstone and I didn't have the nerve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the next day I did it again and again couldn't get the nerve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 46th and Broadway at 49th and Broadway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wore all the round and he was shorter than I.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked up and he said, who are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And why are you following me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, like Jackie Gleason and the Honeymooners answered, bye bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: come down, come down, come down, come down, come up with me to the office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we go back to his office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a tiny office, just one for a secretary and for him and he kind of stretched out like a cat on his couch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, so what is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I want to work with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to be with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to learn from you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want any money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, listen, there are hundreds of actors who will
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[SPEAKER_01]: told him a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I worked at the ABC network and at that time I was then working for a movie theater chain called The Wall to Read Fiddlers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, did you ever hear of a face in the crowd?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, sure, it's Andy Griffith and Tony Francis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He also a Lee Remick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I know who in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what I said, it didn't seem to be too bright bright.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the best I did was I'll be horrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but how about baby dog?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ever hear that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started a name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The names and he cut me off and he says, look, do you think you could do anything with those two movies?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Having a baby one idea or two, but what
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting these movies back, I have a strange but good deal with Warner Bros. And these two movies, after 10 years, revert to me, it's now 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll own them, see what you can do with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's how it began.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it began.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had never had it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did it for 40 some more years before he died.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and we never had a contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what it did, Rashad, what it did for me, was to give me credibility that if Kazan would give this kid these movies, he must be somebody, because that would Kazan do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With our question, I asked him, years later, why did you do it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he said, Julian, I spent my whole life casting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I spent my life casting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt you were going to be able to do a great job So I was grateful that he cast a lot and cast the name, but that was cast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what the interesting part about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a beautiful story, and I think that you know It shows people that if you just pursue your passion and sometimes being a bummerling fumbling
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I don't have words for it, but you can see I'm passionate about something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can be the best answer in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people sometimes overanalyze their qualifications, they overspeak when sometimes all it takes is personal engagement and your personal conviction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I want to do this, show me the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you were like, I got, you know, one of the greatest directors of all times, you know, the
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[SPEAKER_00]: filmography.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have figured this out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's problems that are associated in the back end, but you had the opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a beautiful, wonderful thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, often, you know, that story, I made the opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you don't have, you're not that, I guess, fortunate to be able to do so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very glad that I ended up taking
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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, having the nerve to talk after he accosted me, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting to how brilliant he was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As we walked back to his office, he would point out a car, a restaurant, a person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every, he was almost like a voiceover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I said nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just was, I just kept asking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go to Kusan's office with Kusan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a very interesting thing, and I was glad that I was lucky, but I was fortunate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say luck with luck implies I had nothing to do with it, but I was fortunate that he was interested enough to find out who this kid was following him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah absolutely and you know obviously you wrote a book later on and we'll get to it try not to hold it against me right because for other generations his name obviously is synonymous with certain things you know and you obviously talked about that so I certainly don't want to you know bring up something dark but it is a part of his history
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, with the 1954 McCarthy hearings and, you know, a lot of people didn't stand when you got that honorary Oscar, I think back in 1999, you know, so you see it a lot, you know, when it comes to people that, you know, a young Harvey Weinstein who you, you know, if you want to tell that story, that to me kind of blew my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's it like knowing people and then just kind of seeing things transpire through history?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you don't think of it until you write a book, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harvey was a rock promoter in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right there, he had a company called Harvey and Corky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was unbelievably successful in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Sinatra was going to do six cities, one of them was Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're always stones, we're going to do five cities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They chose Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we both know there are many bigger cities than Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Without question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To go to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Reghase was the biggest star, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he was that good at what he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he contacted me and I was sure because he told me he had just bought a film with a guy named a group named Wings with Paul McCartney.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wanted to talk to me about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was sure because I had a company that distributed movies, I was sure he wanted me to distribute it for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very surprised when he came up and said no, I want to learn the film business, I want to distribute it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you teach me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of liked him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a kid from the streets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a great sense of humor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In all the time we would gather, I never saw anything that came close to what happened to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never in my wildest dreams that I think he'd hit the heights he hit or the depths that he sought to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never would have seen it, but he sat on the couch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, okay, I'm calling someone so get on the phone and listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a yellow legal sized pad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would listen, take notes, I'd hang up, and he'd ask me about the question what a why I said this, why I did that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I taught him the business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was at one point quite proud of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I wrote about it, but I'm not exactly running around sharing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at the end of the day, right, so, you know, he made his own decisions on the things that he did, you know, and, you know, your spirit path is going to always touch hands and stories with people who have a variety of different backgrounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, his box office success is in his film career speaks for itself, and then the horrible things that he ultimately was convicted of, or part of his story, and he has to face the consequences for them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You had, you know, and that's just the part of the path of life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was it like being vice president, like a pivot of the, of paramount pictures?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, did it just kind of start coming organically once you're producing films?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you had your own production company Castle Hill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make sure I say that in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's a very career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The career is definitely very, but, you know, they say a jack of old trades, master of none.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as I remember it concerned, it was the worst two years of my life, despite all the trappings of first-class travel, limousines, sweets, a lot of backside kissing from people, but I couldn't say yes to anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now here I am.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I go into the head of the company and I say, listen, I'm not used to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ran the Walter Reed organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I made all the decisions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've got to be able OK, a movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to be able to say, no, no, no, no, you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can you can you can pass without telling us and I said, OK, I said, listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a year left in my contract and we pay people 50 cents on the dollar to believe I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Damn me out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, you got to stay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to stay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to convince you that this was Barry Dilla.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says I'm going to convince you that this is the place for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then at one point they said one of the vice president said to me, listen, you're the third highest paid person in the studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, tell you what, make me the fifth
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why moving?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I stay anyhow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite story about that time, I said to Barry said to me, Barry Diller, he was the chairman of Paramah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, well, I just don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell me, what is it that you don't like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I'm diametrically opposed to everything you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said diametrically?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was, he could accept that I was somewhat opposed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, fact that I was so strong about it, oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm glad that I had the experience because I realized that I thought I had the talent and I wanted to run a studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I found that I may have may or may not have had the talent, but I knew I couldn't swim in those waters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's where filled with people that were...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't want to be in a fox hole with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put it on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do understand that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just have a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was burning in my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was there any movie that you weren't able to green light that maybe turned out to be hugely successful?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, yeah, that came to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That movie I was involved with at my time at those two years was Saturday night fever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what was it from the beginning to the end, but I had nothing to do with green-white in it because I was in New York And they were shooting in New York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in quote and charge of the shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had like as much to do with its success as you did I wasn't even alive when the movie came out
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I rest my case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're killing me, that is all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, how?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only contribution I made, John Baton was the director.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I went to him, I said, John, this, there's a lot of four little language we're using here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But eventually, this is gonna play television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't put this language on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rather than have them beeping it or cutting it, just have them say, you know, something not as horrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my contribution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's actually my favor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, you know, you know what though, but the fact that you were even in the time when that was taking place You know, don't at first what your cops must be for themselves, but you know, I just wanted to kind of ask that question if there was you know that one film There's a quote But um, what was it like something I'll tell you something you might be interested in was very surprising to all of us at Paramount the very first day of shooting John Travolta showed up
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and we could not control the crowds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thought crowds were so gigantic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he had, but on a television show, we're looking back on a winter car or car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, but we had no idea the following this guy had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we had to get the New York City police and put up the barricades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, could not shoot for the whole morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what shocking to us because we knew he was a kid from a television show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a fan base that, you know, could very, almost everyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had two accidents career, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they had that law in the 80s, you know, and then for people of my age, you know, I knew him from the look who's talking with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they just put him up, you know, where he is now, he doesn't have to do it anything else ever again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because with that put him into, you know, resurrected him times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Saturday night fever was followed up with grease.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the other point, he was probably the biggest movie star in the country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a nice moment to moment and that was a gigantic bomb and then he became like every other act of good ones bad one that making movies, you know, yeah, and you know, but I'm a still fan of this because he's still legendary with the work that he did
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've also done record producing, you know, you've done Broadway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a, so how did you expand into those other avenues of entertainment?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it just kind of come organically?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're meeting musicians and it did, how did that kind of branch off me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I went to college and got a degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And all my friends were professionals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They became lawyers and doctors and dentists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And since I knew I wanted to be in show business and there was no such thing as getting the masters or a PhD in show business,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I decided to learn every part of the entertainment business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I decided that I would not only be an expert in one field, I would try to become an expert in everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell of the digital theater, move it, everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I spent hours and days reading and being interviewed and interviewing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: people until I felt I had the knowledge of almost all aspects of the business and then I said let's see now what I can apply it, what can I do now that I have the knowledge what am I going to do with it and that's how it happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Paramount as I said was such an miserable experience for me that I said I can't work, I obviously I can't work for somebody, I have to be my own boss and so I
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[SPEAKER_01]: went out with great trepidation to open up my own company.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was called Castle Hill, and we ended up representing an only 500 motion pictures.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of the greatest motion pictures that were ever made, including John Ford, stage coach and Gitchcock's foreign correspondent and unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Breaking Moranth and, well, Glenn Gary Glenn Ross, we had a huge library of terrific movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just it was a dream and as Elvis Elvis sang you got a file of that dream wherever that dream may lead you Yeah, it worked it worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very glad about it everybody has their ups and downs and clearly clearly I did but by and large I used to say and still do it's only work if you don't want to do it
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[SPEAKER_00]: a man of that brother and you know what's funny is I think a glengleric unross right started out to play by David Manment right and so then it transitioned to film and what's funny is the outbbled when character wasn't even in the play right so for people who watched the movie you know we'll say you want to talk about four hundred words right like that 15 minute appearance that man had you know has is if anybody who hasn't seen it it's one of the greatest performances you'll ever see because he stole the show
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's probably one of the great male cast of all the, oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Lemon and you've got so so many wonderful actors doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes Kevin Stacy David David had worked in a real estate office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we came and his head away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had worked there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew what it was like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew what the salesman went through and he wrote that play and put it on first in Chicago and they came to New York with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He and I worked together and I've recently did an interview with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I
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[SPEAKER_01]: We go back a while now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, his work is wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely exquisite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you talk about your book trying not to hold it against me because I want to make sure we can be referenced that too?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a book that I'll give you a laugh, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good book that got horrific reviews.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And believe me, I'm proud of it and I'm glad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the catch, here's the catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody who wrote didn't write and say, what style, what grace, what brilliance, they wrote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We loved it because it's short chapters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the detentious man of the new American consumer right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I became the USA today of book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they think is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was fun to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wrote a jury in the COVID because I couldn't really do very much couldn't leave the house really great or it was afraid to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I went on shows like yours, people started asking me questions that led me to believe I have a second book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wrote a second book, which I call my first book, Part Two.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then I went on shows like yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I recorded them both because I thought, you know, I don't want an actor, he doesn't know what the emotion was when I did this or I felt that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me do it myself and I have been on the radio for nine years in New York and around the country on a syndicated show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew that I had at least a voice that's at least a professional, it's nothing else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I recorded both of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and let's say, don't downplay yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You knew exactly, only you could tell your story, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't going to be personal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think in this era of, you know, inauthenticity or AI chat box, it's something that it's actually told by you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you knew that you could tell your story the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it meant more to you to do that on your own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And based on your accomplishments, I'm glad you did that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to reading some excerpts from that book and getting it myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad to hear that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what happened was over the years and I bet you've had this happen lately yourself in the last couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People would say, you know, you want to write a book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to write a book?
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[SPEAKER_01]: People tell me that all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you say, of course, I will one day, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
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[SPEAKER_01]: yeah you got to recognize it and move on to something else so i wrote a few chapters and who knows maybe one day in my dotage which could be next week hope that i'll start i'll finish it up i don't know well you know your chapters and your stories are
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[SPEAKER_00]: The stuff of MD and the reason why I created this show was because even though we're past the age of the era of radio This show allows my mind to transport to places that I've never been taught to people I never would have crossed past with So for people who are listening even if you're not that young boy
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[SPEAKER_00]: who is listening to the radio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can still be inspired and change course simply by dreaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's good that you have lived through the errors that you have because you've probably seen many dreams, you know, die on the vine, but you pursue yours and you have lived a wonderful life and continue to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: Real dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You took time out of your business schedule to speak well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a pleasure to speak to you and as I told you before, we went on the air You gave me some new food for Ford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope I can swallow it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, well, you know, this is your the reason and people like yourself the reason I made this show was because I decided to to act on what I believed in
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I believe that curiosity and success cross all boundaries regardless of the zip code you're listening to this in you can be that young boy listening to the radio and end up in Hollywood and Broadway and record producer and the pinnacle of success in your profession if you only act on your dreams and maybe follow that things directed
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thank you for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so proud of you now that you have learned that you've come and you did what you did follow your dream and you're doing it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Best of luck to you and thank you for having me on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Julian Schlossberg, you're a legend and your profession and inspiring words on the randomness of nothing podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thank you very much for your time, sir.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, the listeners of the randomness of nothing podcast, success, it's always about the person that starts at age and dreams, and then they pictures themselves doing their dreams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This man is the epitome of following his dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a former taxi driver that climbed the hills of Hollywood, Broadway, retroproducing and entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Julianne Sloshberg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Rajad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having me, and yes, I did drive a cab and it was
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second hardest job I ever had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got to get what the first is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you said this one up, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The pin boy in a bowling alley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately, for me, they didn't come too fast, so I put him in the prison for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for people with the hardest job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was the only one sober.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is awesome, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's funny how I remember one time just briefly when I never really driven through New Jersey before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The people who are like this foregone era, there were people that changed the pins of the pinball at the bowling alley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I remember one through New Jersey once and I started pumping my own gas and like you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, you can't do what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what can I do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, you can't pump your own gas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, are you like, people who are like in this era of where they still make people do certain things that you wouldn't even think of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no clue because I had never been in Jersey and I was like you can't pump your own gas dude like it was a strange side of body experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like my bad guys sorry about that when your Tony's a brand don't come out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good thing they didn't arrest you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That right, right, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was looking for Tony's a brand all over the shoulder, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, right, you know, I stopped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you started, you know, we talked before and people sometimes put their dream in the closet because they don't think it's attainable or there's not a lot of people around them that are pursuing those paths and you decided through your love of film and radio and television that young boy that said this is the venue that I'm going to go into and I'm pursuit with my heart
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please tell your story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very fortunate, Rashad, because I grew up with radio at the beginning of my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what that did would force you to use your imagination.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're out on the range with a lone ranger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're going down those stairs to Jack Benny's vault and we're conjuring up incredible exciting things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as when the advent of television became began.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was exciting for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would go down town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I lived in the Bronx.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I go downtown and I'd see the rehearsals of the Perry Colmo show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They gave tickets out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I run back home to see the show an hour later to see what they changed from the dress rehearsal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is not your typical way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of living your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, excited me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It excited me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I wanted to be part of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know what part, but I just knew I wanted to be with those people doing what I thought was exciting things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think that the beauty about that is we hear you are with your mind, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're sitting back and you're, you know, I saw, you know, your bio, where there's 14 cents, you know, movie theater tickets and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's those small things, you know, that did you have a mentor, did you have what was your in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, who did you meet?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you were like, you know, you were the first, you were the youngest movie buyer, but by watching films that it kind of gets you into that world, so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess it did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The person who was the most influential, I had no relatives in show business, but there was an incredible director, the George Lucas Steven Spielberg of his time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His name was Eidliya Kazan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very familiar with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and he was a Academy Award winner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won the Academy Award as director of on the Waterfront and Gentleman's Agreement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he discovered Marlon Brando, even Marie St. Mike, I'm with Cliff James Dean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was he was the man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to show you what kind of a weekend I must have been having, there were telephone books in those days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, let me see if he's got a listing, his cousin listed in the New York phone because I knew he lived in New York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and they were he was listed I couldn't believe it and that's not only did they have the phone number but they had the address and I believe it was 1545 Broadway anyhow and I stayed outside first I went into the building to see what the office number was but there was no
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[SPEAKER_01]: directory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I stood outside the building because I couldn't find the building for a while because it was behind the cashiers booth of the Victoria Theatre on 46th Street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say, I would go buy it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't find them finally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the entrance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I waited and he came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was afraid to talk to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I spotted the follow him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: up Broadway, an all the way to 70 summer street where he went into a brownstone and I didn't have the nerve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the next day I did it again and again couldn't get the nerve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 46th and Broadway at 49th and Broadway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wore all the round and he was shorter than I.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked up and he said, who are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And why are you following me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, like Jackie Gleason and the Honeymooners answered, bye bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: come down, come down, come down, come down, come up with me to the office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we go back to his office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a tiny office, just one for a secretary and for him and he kind of stretched out like a cat on his couch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, so what is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I want to work with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to be with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to learn from you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want any money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, listen, there are hundreds of actors who will
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[SPEAKER_01]: told him a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I worked at the ABC network and at that time I was then working for a movie theater chain called The Wall to Read Fiddlers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, did you ever hear of a face in the crowd?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, sure, it's Andy Griffith and Tony Francis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He also a Lee Remick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I know who in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what I said, it didn't seem to be too bright bright.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the best I did was I'll be horrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but how about baby dog?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ever hear that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started a name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The names and he cut me off and he says, look, do you think you could do anything with those two movies?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Having a baby one idea or two, but what
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting these movies back, I have a strange but good deal with Warner Bros. And these two movies, after 10 years, revert to me, it's now 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll own them, see what you can do with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's how it began.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it began.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had never had it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did it for 40 some more years before he died.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and we never had a contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what it did, Rashad, what it did for me, was to give me credibility that if Kazan would give this kid these movies, he must be somebody, because that would Kazan do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With our question, I asked him, years later, why did you do it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he said, Julian, I spent my whole life casting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I spent my life casting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt you were going to be able to do a great job So I was grateful that he cast a lot and cast the name, but that was cast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what the interesting part about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a beautiful story, and I think that you know It shows people that if you just pursue your passion and sometimes being a bummerling fumbling
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I don't have words for it, but you can see I'm passionate about something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can be the best answer in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people sometimes overanalyze their qualifications, they overspeak when sometimes all it takes is personal engagement and your personal conviction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I want to do this, show me the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you were like, I got, you know, one of the greatest directors of all times, you know, the
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[SPEAKER_00]: filmography.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have figured this out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's problems that are associated in the back end, but you had the opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a beautiful, wonderful thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, often, you know, that story, I made the opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you don't have, you're not that, I guess, fortunate to be able to do so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very glad that I ended up taking
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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, having the nerve to talk after he accosted me, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting to how brilliant he was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As we walked back to his office, he would point out a car, a restaurant, a person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every, he was almost like a voiceover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I said nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just was, I just kept asking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go to Kusan's office with Kusan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a very interesting thing, and I was glad that I was lucky, but I was fortunate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say luck with luck implies I had nothing to do with it, but I was fortunate that he was interested enough to find out who this kid was following him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah absolutely and you know obviously you wrote a book later on and we'll get to it try not to hold it against me right because for other generations his name obviously is synonymous with certain things you know and you obviously talked about that so I certainly don't want to you know bring up something dark but it is a part of his history
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, with the 1954 McCarthy hearings and, you know, a lot of people didn't stand when you got that honorary Oscar, I think back in 1999, you know, so you see it a lot, you know, when it comes to people that, you know, a young Harvey Weinstein who you, you know, if you want to tell that story, that to me kind of blew my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's it like knowing people and then just kind of seeing things transpire through history?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you don't think of it until you write a book, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harvey was a rock promoter in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right there, he had a company called Harvey and Corky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was unbelievably successful in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Sinatra was going to do six cities, one of them was Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're always stones, we're going to do five cities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They chose Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we both know there are many bigger cities than Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Without question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To go to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Reghase was the biggest star, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he was that good at what he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he contacted me and I was sure because he told me he had just bought a film with a guy named a group named Wings with Paul McCartney.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wanted to talk to me about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was sure because I had a company that distributed movies, I was sure he wanted me to distribute it for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very surprised when he came up and said no, I want to learn the film business, I want to distribute it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you teach me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of liked him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a kid from the streets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a great sense of humor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In all the time we would gather, I never saw anything that came close to what happened to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never in my wildest dreams that I think he'd hit the heights he hit or the depths that he sought to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never would have seen it, but he sat on the couch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, okay, I'm calling someone so get on the phone and listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a yellow legal sized pad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would listen, take notes, I'd hang up, and he'd ask me about the question what a why I said this, why I did that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I taught him the business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was at one point quite proud of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I wrote about it, but I'm not exactly running around sharing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at the end of the day, right, so, you know, he made his own decisions on the things that he did, you know, and, you know, your spirit path is going to always touch hands and stories with people who have a variety of different backgrounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, his box office success is in his film career speaks for itself, and then the horrible things that he ultimately was convicted of, or part of his story, and he has to face the consequences for them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You had, you know, and that's just the part of the path of life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was it like being vice president, like a pivot of the, of paramount pictures?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, did it just kind of start coming organically once you're producing films?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you had your own production company Castle Hill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make sure I say that in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's a very career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The career is definitely very, but, you know, they say a jack of old trades, master of none.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as I remember it concerned, it was the worst two years of my life, despite all the trappings of first-class travel, limousines, sweets, a lot of backside kissing from people, but I couldn't say yes to anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now here I am.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I go into the head of the company and I say, listen, I'm not used to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ran the Walter Reed organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I made all the decisions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've got to be able OK, a movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to be able to say, no, no, no, no, you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can you can you can pass without telling us and I said, OK, I said, listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a year left in my contract and we pay people 50 cents on the dollar to believe I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Damn me out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, you got to stay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to stay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to convince you that this was Barry Dilla.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says I'm going to convince you that this is the place for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then at one point they said one of the vice president said to me, listen, you're the third highest paid person in the studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, tell you what, make me the fifth
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why moving?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I stay anyhow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite story about that time, I said to Barry said to me, Barry Diller, he was the chairman of Paramah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, well, I just don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell me, what is it that you don't like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I'm diametrically opposed to everything you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said diametrically?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was, he could accept that I was somewhat opposed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, fact that I was so strong about it, oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm glad that I had the experience because I realized that I thought I had the talent and I wanted to run a studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I found that I may have may or may not have had the talent, but I knew I couldn't swim in those waters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's where filled with people that were...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't want to be in a fox hole with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put it on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do understand that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just have a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was burning in my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was there any movie that you weren't able to green light that maybe turned out to be hugely successful?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, yeah, that came to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That movie I was involved with at my time at those two years was Saturday night fever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what was it from the beginning to the end, but I had nothing to do with green-white in it because I was in New York And they were shooting in New York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in quote and charge of the shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had like as much to do with its success as you did I wasn't even alive when the movie came out
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I rest my case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're killing me, that is all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, how?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only contribution I made, John Baton was the director.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I went to him, I said, John, this, there's a lot of four little language we're using here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But eventually, this is gonna play television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't put this language on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rather than have them beeping it or cutting it, just have them say, you know, something not as horrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my contribution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's actually my favor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, you know, you know what though, but the fact that you were even in the time when that was taking place You know, don't at first what your cops must be for themselves, but you know, I just wanted to kind of ask that question if there was you know that one film There's a quote But um, what was it like something I'll tell you something you might be interested in was very surprising to all of us at Paramount the very first day of shooting John Travolta showed up
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and we could not control the crowds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thought crowds were so gigantic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he had, but on a television show, we're looking back on a winter car or car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, but we had no idea the following this guy had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we had to get the New York City police and put up the barricades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, could not shoot for the whole morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what shocking to us because we knew he was a kid from a television show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a fan base that, you know, could very, almost everyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had two accidents career, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they had that law in the 80s, you know, and then for people of my age, you know, I knew him from the look who's talking with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they just put him up, you know, where he is now, he doesn't have to do it anything else ever again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because with that put him into, you know, resurrected him times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Saturday night fever was followed up with grease.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the other point, he was probably the biggest movie star in the country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a nice moment to moment and that was a gigantic bomb and then he became like every other act of good ones bad one that making movies, you know, yeah, and you know, but I'm a still fan of this because he's still legendary with the work that he did
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've also done record producing, you know, you've done Broadway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a, so how did you expand into those other avenues of entertainment?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it just kind of come organically?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're meeting musicians and it did, how did that kind of branch off me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I went to college and got a degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And all my friends were professionals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They became lawyers and doctors and dentists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And since I knew I wanted to be in show business and there was no such thing as getting the masters or a PhD in show business,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I decided to learn every part of the entertainment business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I decided that I would not only be an expert in one field, I would try to become an expert in everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell of the digital theater, move it, everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I spent hours and days reading and being interviewed and interviewing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: people until I felt I had the knowledge of almost all aspects of the business and then I said let's see now what I can apply it, what can I do now that I have the knowledge what am I going to do with it and that's how it happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Paramount as I said was such an miserable experience for me that I said I can't work, I obviously I can't work for somebody, I have to be my own boss and so I
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[SPEAKER_01]: went out with great trepidation to open up my own company.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was called Castle Hill, and we ended up representing an only 500 motion pictures.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of the greatest motion pictures that were ever made, including John Ford, stage coach and Gitchcock's foreign correspondent and unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Breaking Moranth and, well, Glenn Gary Glenn Ross, we had a huge library of terrific movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just it was a dream and as Elvis Elvis sang you got a file of that dream wherever that dream may lead you Yeah, it worked it worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very glad about it everybody has their ups and downs and clearly clearly I did but by and large I used to say and still do it's only work if you don't want to do it
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[SPEAKER_00]: a man of that brother and you know what's funny is I think a glengleric unross right started out to play by David Manment right and so then it transitioned to film and what's funny is the outbbled when character wasn't even in the play right so for people who watched the movie you know we'll say you want to talk about four hundred words right like that 15 minute appearance that man had you know has is if anybody who hasn't seen it it's one of the greatest performances you'll ever see because he stole the show
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's probably one of the great male cast of all the, oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Lemon and you've got so so many wonderful actors doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes Kevin Stacy David David had worked in a real estate office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we came and his head away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had worked there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew what it was like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew what the salesman went through and he wrote that play and put it on first in Chicago and they came to New York with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He and I worked together and I've recently did an interview with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I
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[SPEAKER_01]: We go back a while now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, his work is wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely exquisite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you talk about your book trying not to hold it against me because I want to make sure we can be referenced that too?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a book that I'll give you a laugh, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good book that got horrific reviews.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And believe me, I'm proud of it and I'm glad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the catch, here's the catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody who wrote didn't write and say, what style, what grace, what brilliance, they wrote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We loved it because it's short chapters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the detentious man of the new American consumer right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I became the USA today of book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they think is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was fun to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wrote a jury in the COVID because I couldn't really do very much couldn't leave the house really great or it was afraid to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I went on shows like yours, people started asking me questions that led me to believe I have a second book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wrote a second book, which I call my first book, Part Two.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then I went on shows like yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I recorded them both because I thought, you know, I don't want an actor, he doesn't know what the emotion was when I did this or I felt that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me do it myself and I have been on the radio for nine years in New York and around the country on a syndicated show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew that I had at least a voice that's at least a professional, it's nothing else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I recorded both of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and let's say, don't downplay yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You knew exactly, only you could tell your story, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't going to be personal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think in this era of, you know, inauthenticity or AI chat box, it's something that it's actually told by you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you knew that you could tell your story the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it meant more to you to do that on your own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And based on your accomplishments, I'm glad you did that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to reading some excerpts from that book and getting it myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad to hear that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what happened was over the years and I bet you've had this happen lately yourself in the last couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People would say, you know, you want to write a book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to write a book?
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[SPEAKER_01]: People tell me that all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you say, of course, I will one day, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
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[SPEAKER_01]: yeah you got to recognize it and move on to something else so i wrote a few chapters and who knows maybe one day in my dotage which could be next week hope that i'll start i'll finish it up i don't know well you know your chapters and your stories are
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[SPEAKER_00]: The stuff of MD and the reason why I created this show was because even though we're past the age of the era of radio This show allows my mind to transport to places that I've never been taught to people I never would have crossed past with So for people who are listening even if you're not that young boy
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[SPEAKER_00]: who is listening to the radio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can still be inspired and change course simply by dreaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's good that you have lived through the errors that you have because you've probably seen many dreams, you know, die on the vine, but you pursue yours and you have lived a wonderful life and continue to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: Real dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You took time out of your business schedule to speak well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a pleasure to speak to you and as I told you before, we went on the air You gave me some new food for Ford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope I can swallow it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, well, you know, this is your the reason and people like yourself the reason I made this show was because I decided to to act on what I believed in
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I believe that curiosity and success cross all boundaries regardless of the zip code you're listening to this in you can be that young boy listening to the radio and end up in Hollywood and Broadway and record producer and the pinnacle of success in your profession if you only act on your dreams and maybe follow that things directed
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thank you for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so proud of you now that you have learned that you've come and you did what you did follow your dream and you're doing it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Best of luck to you and thank you for having me on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Julian Schlossberg, you're a legend and your profession and inspiring words on the randomness of nothing podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thank you very much for your time, sir.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was awesome.
Producer, Author, Hollywood Titan
Julian Schlossberg is an award-winning producer, distributor, and entertainment icon whose career spans over 60 years. From his early days as an executive for ABC and Paramount Pictures to founding Castle Hill Productions—one of the largest independent film distribution companies in the world—Schlossberg has been a driving force behind American cinema and theater. He has produced dozens of Broadway and off-Broadway shows, distributed masterpieces by Orson Welles and John Cassavetes, and represented monumental talents like George C. Scott and Elaine May. Today, he shares his decades of Hollywood wisdom through his memoir, Try Not to Hold It Against Me: A Producer's Life, and his hit weekly podcast, Julian Schlossberg's Movie Talk
