The Human Side of High Stakes with Eliana De La Garza

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, dedicated listeners of the randomists of nothing podcast as always I believe that life stories, innovation and career arcs are the pinnacle of this show and that is why I created it to talk to fascinating interesting people from all walks of life and I encourage listeners to be inspired for this current guest at Eliana Delegarza is a former employee of Tesla who then started their own coaching business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and now she's here to share her life story, perspectives, and give you perspectives of how leadership operates behind those closed doors, so you get inside access of how those things operate function.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We always blew all the tidbits like just chit chat and before the show started, you know, like, so it was like, oh, wait, let's say this for the recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So can you give us some background about yourself?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've worked in higher education and financial aid education and now I worked at Tesla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of like my biggest career arc there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then I left Tesla and I started my own coaching and learning and development business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm excited to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's called cosy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cosy, cosy, cosy, cosy, cosy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I looked that up on stuff, but the heck is that name?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It means bones, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm wrong, I looked up like that was like the equivalent, when I looked at the name of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did that, did that, was that the meaning of why you created that name?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In particular, was there something different?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's just funny thing that happens when you're creating a business with an LLC and you're like, oh, I need to figure out what to call this, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just me, so I'm like, I don't wanna call it like Eleonotologarza to be redundant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the word coach,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The origin of the word is Koshik and so it's a Hungarian, which means Koshik.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a redundant business name, but I had to add the coaching part because someone already had that name, so it's Koshik coaching basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But how many people would actually know that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This stands out distinctively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've always found it fascinating, you know, well, obviously navigate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The different levels of what you've accomplished in your life, but coming out of college, you know, I grow I graduated from Michigan State.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's something to me said when people kind of follow that linear path And then they're kind of off not that same like what's life's purpose?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's my best way to navigate this world because there's a very imposter syndrome that happens in life right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody has a degree everybody has the NBA everybody's kind of doing the same thing

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then you start realizing you need to find your authentic self and what you do best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How did you navigate that as you would fill it all the back of the taxes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was really interesting because you come out of college and I think a lot of people have broken this down really well, but you grow up and you're like, you're the most special person, you're unique, you know, thanks for showing up like this polinial generation and then you go to college

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was going to be something waiting for me for a nation's update.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now realistically, it's not exactly that entitled, but it was definitely I left college, and I was like, I don't know how to actually apply this degree in a stepping stone way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I also changed my degree, which happens to everyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with media communications, I have like a slight existential crisis, and I was like, well, let me just get a degree that can be used anywhere with anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with media communications, how did that translate into financial aid, and then coming to Austin and to Tesla?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically as useful as anybody's degree that they're using now for 10 years ago, probably, but, yes, yes, but anyway, we have we have the letters with our name When I came I came back to Austin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really liked the Midwest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very interesting experience going off Into that area, but coming back to Austin, my family's here is very typical returning, but working in financial aid

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and there's always a way to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have to be this, you know, great, noble story or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I wanted to figure out how can I figure out what I'm good at first of all, one of the toughest things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then how do I apply that work in the meaningful way that is fulfilling?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with financial aid, it's pretty obvious, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, um, if someone does volunteer work, it's like, oh, I'm very clearly helping people in this

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[SPEAKER_01]: going into to the public sector, eventually moving over to Tesla, I was like, okay, when we connect to these dots because I don't really know much about Tesla, they had some spicy feelings about it, some people have very interesting opinions about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I was there, I figured, hey, this is an intense place and so there's probably a lot of people that actually do need help here, whether it's their very first day and they need to figure out how to set up a two-factor authentication or whether it's someone who's trying to figure out, hey, I have to have a really difficult conversation with somebody, you know, and or I have to figure out how to keep this team together, morale after a huge layout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are all things that happens while it was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so having that through or I'm of like remembering, what am I good at?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How can I help these people, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it sounds really noble, but it was very selfish at the same time, too, because it's like I was grasping in the dark for for something to keep going forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one thing that people, at least with my experience and graduated from college is to your point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have that same, I got a degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something supposed to come to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now you just, you really don't know a lot, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've obtained information, but have you really been able to apply it, and it's particularly sometimes when you do that first internship, I have no idea if you did or you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it can be kind of a jarring experience, you know, I intern at Sears Corporate, and you're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm an adult now, like I'm in like real-world high-stakes situation kind of a deal, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it can kind of, you know, kind of put you in your place a little bit because if, you know, you're kind of insulated as a kid from real-world, like life consequences, the average kid, some of them have to grow up a lot quicker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: depending on their circumstances, but I always find it fascinating when you're navigating through that space and even when you're working at Tesla, you know, you decided to eventually venture off into coaching, you know, people have to realize, you know, come to a stage in life where what's my passion?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What can I see myself doing all the time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you like to help people as evident based on your career art, even when you're in from public sector to private.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's definitely interesting because one of my, when I first started coaching, my first taste of it was when I was in career services at Austin Community College.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of people there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a community college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a pretty diverse population of people who are recurring or they're upskilling or they are just fresh out of high school, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just getting their degree through the community college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Working with a huge array of students, people still have the same question, what do I want to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's related to trying to have a jigsaw with their degree and figure out how to make this stick or whether they're just trying to figure out how to make a living.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so being able to be really realistic and it's one of the most vulnerable times of your life or you're

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about imposter syndrome before we started and it's something that, you know, it doesn't matter how, how old you are or how young you are, you're going to, you're going to feel it, especially when you're trying to put yourself on paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the hardest things that had to ask students to do and like, hey, resume work, resume work, it's just the absolute worst, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because you can talk, but then when people actually tell you to do what, you know, list your skills, list what you know, list what it becomes a very, when you can spend, you know, an hour and be like, you know, yeah, like you're like, damn, like I need to chat GPT this or I need to AI this because I can't articulate what exactly are my best skill sets and, you know, it's kind of a humbling moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: actually really I'd be an honest with yourself, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you just kind of go on autopilot, but you've never actually taken the time out to actually put on paper, identify weaknesses, you know, do like a SWAT analysis of your own self, really, to be quite honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, especially in this ever evolving, it will get to this changing environment of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Artificial intelligence, you know, we all see the tech AI cuts that, you know, the tech cuts that are coming now, you know, COVID shutdowns, what do you say to those people both from the, you know, entering into the workforce and also those people that realize they have to kind of, you know, re-engineered their own skill sets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, one thing that it's, it's really about telling a story in the way that says easy for someone to skim as possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I really like to address right off the bat like this is, I know this is not a fun thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If someone does, I've never heard someone say, oh, no, this is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this, you know, I had some free time, but it's, it's not a fun thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're being asked to distill yourself onto a piece of paper, first of all,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you're also supposed to brag about yourself and connect the dots between how your experience translates to, I'm good at this future job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's the proof that you're also connecting that for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so whenever I'm working with students who really don't really know where to begin with this, you can sort of tell with students but now professionals now that I've graduated really from population and don't work with them as much, you're telling a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that kind of breaks it down, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, for example, hey, I used to be an executive assistant, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this new job says, they need someone who was able to build processes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how do those things relate?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, actually, didn't you have a system for this and a system that you built for this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, that's different words for very similar things, the system and the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, I, you are going to connect those dots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, for someone else, there's a lot there mentally too that's like, I don't feel like I, that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel like I'm being honest, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when it comes to then the AI and the other stuff, it's like, hey, you're using all this technology, that's great, but AI tends to also be very verbose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's like we have to remember like you can't lose the plot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be one page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's so much to to consider as well as along the way figuring out how does this relate to things you want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're coaching with with resume writing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough because a lot of things that people will figure out as they're writing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still data for them, even when they're emotional experiences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's something like, I don't know if I really, you know, I did a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was good at it, but I don't, you know, why is that important?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you did a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were good at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you like it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's not gets along the way that's like, no, I didn't like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're having their own processing of whether it's by elimination or it's like, this is actually something I really like to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's very relevant to this job I'm applying for, but oh yeah, I really

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe we need to reassess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think, too, is I think one of the issues too that happens to a lot of people is that they can go on a college campus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you really actually, if you're honest with yourself, if you're 17 to 19 years old, you get your diploma in June.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're asking somebody to pivot in basically 60 to 90 days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they may not be emotionally or mentally ready to make that kind of pivot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you find out you have a lot more free time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to be disciplined with your eating, the people you hang out with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a lot to absorb in like literally a summer, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Between like June, grand June or like July and August when you dropped off on that campus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I think that for a large portion of the population, maybe that's not for them or you know, and even though they may have gotten that degree of the diploma,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was programmed to do that so to speak as opposed to I was passionate to do that and this is what I wanted to pursue so it can be in a way yeah I got my degree because I was kind of told that that was the pinnacle of what I had to do to get in life but it didn't necessarily get you the tools or the nuances to navigate certain things and that can only come with experience and or a coach so to speak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, having a coach along the way, sometimes it's, I do fall into, like, like, do, as I say, not as I do, because I went the long path in a lot of, like, career in life decisions where it really was like, I went the process of elimination route.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just not very efficient.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I say this, respectively, I want to over talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you have to go through that, though, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, like, like, starting, like, I started a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was nobody at the tap on the shoulder, but like, hey, man, how you do this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do I navigate the best way to do a podcast?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, that didn't work, no, that didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This kind of work, you need to switch this up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, okay, you learned it along the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should start interviewing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like with coaching when I think about my younger self, like, there are any things where you have to, you have to just go get the experiential learning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I do wish that I had had someone to pause and really think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: about these decisions with as well as the data I was getting along the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whether I needed to do the process of elimination through experiences, still getting that feedback along the way that reflection of how is this, how is this experience serving me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or if I'm feeling this way, what is that telling me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there is a lot of mindfulness and awareness in coaching, but the thing that's interesting about it is it's it's pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's also someone there to really push and shape the conversation through through really pointed questions through observations and like it's it's it's it's so much more than it sounds like because it also has a very we're at like all

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's not therapy, no therapy is regulated, you have to go through a lot of different things coaching, anyone can say that they're a coach, but going through the ICF and doing it in the standardized way, you do find that a lot of

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[SPEAKER_01]: things that come up that are similar in talk therapy where you're breaking down experiences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But with coaching, it's very future forward though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's then okay, what are you going to do with that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, how is this going to inform your next decision?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to be helpful?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like there be sometimes more about unpacking the past, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think one of the challenges of professional development, you know, even is a person being honest with himself, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I can do, I'm sure you know this because you feel the successful coaching business and I'm working with my podcast and it's growing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at the top of the mountain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to work when it's not even, when you don't even have clients, customers, you have to do like the dirty work that's done when there's no praise to be given, when there's no paths on the back, when there's no audience, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That actor you see on the movie screen right now that's got Agilation of Fans was somewhere acting where there was not a lot of crowd watching that person acting, but they gave their best performance because they knew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at some point this would pay off, you know, you put the work in creating the LLC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not pretty stuff people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really, it sucks, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, you know, setting up interviews, doing background research, editing in the background, posting things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, I enjoy putting it in a podcasting, but the actual production of it all, man, it's, it's work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's, it's, it's toil in an interesting way, um, doing some video editing and sound editing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're listening to yourself over and over again, like when you're cutting things and you have to have a strong sense of self to not let that get to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, you're like, wow, does my voice really sound like that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, and you have to get, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the, it's so, like, who is that guy talking?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like man, I really sound like that, like good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's meant to, it's meant to, you have to have, you know, the fortitude to get over that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and you're talking about starting, starting businesses though, it's, it really is like, a couple ramen, some lifestyle sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're just like, this is humbling, this is hard, and going into it, one thing that like, there were so many amazing people I met at Tesla, a lot of them leaders just because that was a huge part of my job, but um, one leader I worked with, Travis McKenzie,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's Australian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to do the accent, but he's Australian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like super tall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm five for him, like looking up at him and I'm making the decision to leave Tesla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have a job lined up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know what I was going to do next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And something I would never advise by the way for someone going who is one of my students for career coaching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really, it was really hard, like I had preparations in place and resources, but one thing that Travis said in his lunch with leaders speaking series, and then again, when I was talking to him about this, is he always emphasized, like, you have to bet on yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more than just believing in yourself, you know, because you believe in yourself and you're like, hey, yes, you know, I exist, you know, go me, but betting on yourself is like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I don't even know if I would put Clarna on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is, you really have to have consistent faith because, first of all, I am the worst boss I've ever had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, second of all, um, I, you know, it's, it can be pretty lonely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, yeah, going, like I said, working in essentially an international airport to working from home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's something that I really, it's, it's been really rewarding, but this is something and coaching that I had to sort of do myself or it's like, okay, I'm feeling lonely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This means that there's a gap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What, what is that gap?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Relationships.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I am lacking this and this is something that is feeling heavy for me, I have to find this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to go out and subsidize this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this going to be for their friendships with networking?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, okay, I have to take this information in, but it's really hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think, you know, for me, like it was, I'm the guy that always kind of knew the random fact toy that would always ask questions about it's funny because your theory is as a kid, but then when you get to be an adult, people tell you to stop being curious about for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but you have to follow your passion in what your heart tells you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's, and so, you know, when I decided to do the podcast, I was like, I need to be all in, you know, it can't be anybody who's listening, nobody's gonna give you a break watching the next Netflix show and believe me I'm perfectly fine with taking a day off to like watch a show catch up with something, you know, live a little bit, that's not about that

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the point is, is that nobody's going to make your venture get off the ground except for yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you're trying to get clients or if you're trying to get viewers or if you're trying to get people on the show, they have to know that you're all in because if when it's just you, like you don't have the luxury of having that bad day, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, or like having that, well, you know, I don't feel like doing that right now, because I'm not a syndicated talk show with four people on a panel where I can take that time off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when people want to speak to Eliana Delagarza, you know, unless you pre-plan something off an emergency happens, you have to be on your A game because it's all on you, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what you're pursuing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for people who are listening, you know, it takes work, and it has to be when you don't feel like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think you've touched on something really interesting there, which is this ownership aspect, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And distinctions between ownership and autonomy and curiosity as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So going into it, like there's that balance between how can I be ambitious and challenge myself?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But how can I also be prepared for when it's difficult and how I need to make sure that I can keep going?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like being really aware of what your batteries are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like where I'm like, I am an extrovert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need relationships.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need engagement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like my biggest battery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when it's running low, everything else is just

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you're when you're figuring that out along the way going into starting your own business it's also something that a lot of them don't work out for a reason like the universe is going to test you some people they start off and they have a lot of traction and then they hit that you know they hit that stagnation and it's like hey it's not always going to be you know just flooding in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then other times, you're sitting through months of like, nothing, like no clients, no meeting, like you're you're marketing or you're like, you know, busting your ass and then there's just nothing going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then when it rains, it pours and it's like, whatever, you know, southern cliches you would have throw in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it really does happen where it's like, are you sure you really want this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That will sink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny because you can't ask for what you want, then cry when you get it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I had back to back interviews, like, you know, back in my life, I really, I was like, I asked for this, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, that's what I wanted, that's what I worked for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's funny because, and you know, this from the coaching career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, I use this as an example of martial arts, have a black belt and karate, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a brown belt and take one dough, and I've done various other styles, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only jutsu and moly time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's always that sugar-high rush because somebody may have seen like UFC and they're like, I wanna do martial arts, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They buy the cool part is like enrolling and going to the first class and buying the gear, the crappy part is when you're getting your butt handed to you and you're out of shape and you're trying to find out, like, well, this is for real, this is really hard work, like, yeah, it's not easy, I don't say easy, but it's not pretty what doing this is to get a black belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: actually a lot of hard work behind the scenes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just buy it off Amazon and just draw it around with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like when you have coaching and not distancing any of your clients, when people do conferences or do clients, they're all in on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, yep, I'm going to bear my soul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I want to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you ask for the follow-up call, next Monday with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, ah, you know, busy schedule life happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, how committed are you to actually making change?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, it's something that to, um, there, there aren't really any shortcuts, you know, when you, when you start your own business, there, there aren't really any shortcuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the only way through is through, um, and it's, it's tough because we are surrounded by, um, kind of being informed about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: short cuts like being marketed to for an example like crazy and is great right but a lot of people when It's marketed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of seen as like this short cut like you'll recover faster this and you know It is real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is great, but I feel like that mentality is

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[SPEAKER_01]: something that people are really hooked on to for so many aspects of life, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go to this digital boot camp for three weeks, you know, and be able to do Python, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 250,000 hours a year waiting for you after that cost is all with that piece of paper that you get to put behind you, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is, there really is no shortcut and there's no, there's no net either and so when you're going about it, there's this time where you're waiting through nothing or client no shows and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or it's like, I don't know I had to get this type of insurance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's that's the new cost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a recurring cost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a one-time thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason why in America they've created this, this, your benefits are through your company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your lifestyle is benefited around your company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because people will have that blanket that, well, I would do this but look what I'm losing, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in a way, despite the fact that companies offer robust benefits, there's a downside to it where they call it the golden handcuffs, so to speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The golden handcuffs, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're like cool and risk taking like between like 18 and 30, but then once you start factoring kids and you know medical conditions could pile up and you needed insurance or you know you have a lot of things vested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It comes very hard and then but you know people

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[SPEAKER_00]: privately, we'll say, man, I really really want to do this instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When people hit their their four years at any company, whenever the besting award quarterly, whatever it is, there's a huge, there's like, there's all this data around attrition around those times and it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they bred from you along the way, like, well, here's another performance award that vests over this many years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it makes sense like there's logic, but also just know what's happening to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I was going to say to when you're talking about training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you start a business, I compare it to when people get a gym membership at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right it's it's it's the same thing where it's like hey this has great intentions you have goals you know you're making a plan um and it it feels really like you're inspired right um and it's like how do you know that yeah and then honey you how do you keep wanting to lose weight when you don't see the weight coming off right yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, I wish that everything could be a creed montage, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would, I would love for Michael be Jordan to push tires for me, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's like, there's, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like, it's tough work, you know, like, they don't, they don't show him in the movie on the side looking at a TikTok workout compilation, like, oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really do need to straighten my back more on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's low parts, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like, it's like, you know, like the HTTV, like, no, it really doesn't take 30 minutes to flip the house ladies and gentlemen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to happen, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, but we have this immediate satisfaction because of social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to ask what's the onboarding process like when you actually bring on a client, like what are the types of questions, what's the insight, kind of the data that they need to provide to you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so for my business, there's three different buckets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like the individual coaching, there's leadership cohorts, which is like ongoing kind of what I did at Tesla, and then there's the project coaching side, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, for the one-on-one coaching, when it comes to any onboarding client, I need to be as curious as possible and to make someone feel comfortable, as well, to make sure that we can really be honest with each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because it may not be the best thing for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not wanting to sell that I know that's not my personality and it took me a while when I was starting this business to realize this is making me so uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like marketing and selling to people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was like, well, then don't, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get to know them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The GratHow to figure out how to help them and build a relationship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, okay, it's like so simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to hear it a couple different times for it to hit, but when I'm going into it, I'm figuring out as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this something that you also want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't really coach someone who doesn't want to be coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so the only reason the only way that coaching works is if there's curiosity and accountability And so if there are neither of those things, you're you're paying for both of us to be really frustrated in a call You know, and I think and I think you know the well, let me talk about the third pillar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to catch you off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you're getting, and the other two, those are like the corporate contract learning and development themes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really interesting, but the one-on-one clients, I think you're more regarding to, in this call as well, it's figuring out, you know, what do you think coaching is?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now that you have an understanding after we, you know, align on that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to get out of it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, I won advice and it's like, oh, I don't, I don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't give advice, you know, I, I, in my personal life, I will not shut up about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in this session, that's not going to be helpful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like I can make observations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what it really is is like, I'm going to push you to think critically about something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to walk around it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to shape it every other way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we do stress tests.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of my favorite things to do in coaching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hey, let's lean into the uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is the worst case scenario?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're concerned about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're feeling anxiety about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: go ahead and say it, it can be out of you, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now, what's the best case scenario, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I love doing these types of things because it's a very specific type of relationship that you get to establish, which is I'm not your boss, I'm not your mentor, you know, I'm not your subordinate, I'm not your therapist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is a lot of what the first call is is defining the role and defining the goals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And be honest with you, creating boundaries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, let's call it four of this too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, it's also creating boundaries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, listen, you know, this is a coaching session.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not your venting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, you know, I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I want to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how I need to obtain these skills to get this or this is where I need to pivot to get where I need to get, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason that ultimately ideas or people's passion die on the vine is because a lot of times they don't realize the behind-the-scenes work that they have to do, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have information, you may need them to supply to you before the next meeting, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In order for this session to take place on next Tuesday, I need this by this Friday for you so I can review it and we can talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That takes time to do, you know, in order for me to have a successful show,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm never say it's successful, but I feel like, you know, I've reached some people, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That means you may have to be, you know, make somebody upset.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That means you may have to get pulled from free time that, you know, with other people that they wanted you at, that means like that Saturday night that you were supposed to be committed to something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to do an interview or you're spending time editing on a Sunday when it's beautiful outside and, you know, people are talking for your attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It means doing things when they're at their most convenient and only then when you're willing to give those things up Will you ultimately get some place or get closer to where you want to be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that accountability part is really important To your point one thing about coaching as well like with this with your podcasting business

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's skills, application, and place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have to do the work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we're in the session, that's work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's also, you're preparing, like, for example, hey, I have this difficult conversation and I'm coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to, you know, tell Eliana that her last report was, you know, dog duty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was bad, it was real bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it's like, I, she's my star performer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to have that conversation with her about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also know she's very sensitive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we have a whole coaching session around that, we come back next week and you didn't have that conversation, there's something to be said about, you know, I, I thought you wanted to be, um, a leader with better communication skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I thought you wanted to step further into authority, you know, in presence and influence and it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is that this is that part too and so with with coaching it's very application based so it's not just us talking about like I see myself doing this in five years It's like, okay, this is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're breaking that down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to do in the next two weeks, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, I don't know and it's like okay, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's figured out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's figure it out

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I say this all the time too, you know, companies plan ahead, you know, two, five, 10, 15, 20 years, you know, people tend to think day to day, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, whenever, you know, the AI thing that dropped, that kind of got dropped in everybody's lap, you know, they were thinking about that long before this actually came to fruition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you see all these tech layoffs that are taking place, you know, a lot of it has to do with overhiring because of COVID, but it also has to do in conjunction with the with the AI as well, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That accelerated when they realized that people were quite a cool getting what they wanted when when COVID happened and it became more of a.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the pendulum slaying in the opposite direction and not in the power of the employer, so to speak, because in case people realize, well, I will always swing back in their favor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does, that's just how they plan, that's how the system is set up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes a lot of strength and power to buck the system, so to speak, and walk your own path, because it's very enticing to want to be comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and to be, you know, for lack of better terms, you're kind of caught over a little bit because you never really had to kind of step outside of your comfort zone and be solely independent of your own thoughts and success.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't really be in your comfort zone and grow at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's, you know, you can time things out so you can really settle into those periods and, you know, really enjoy them, but if you, if you want to, you know, get this promotion, if you want to, you know, get a new belt in in one of, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's finding a way for that to be feasible for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so one thing is a lot of these sessions start off people are really ambitious, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, I'm doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a coach now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to, it's going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like...

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like... Well, one of the things is like figuring out what are the stories that we're telling ourselves, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's always one of the things I like to do is bridging between the story or telling about yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the reality in figuring out in between their how can these work together bridging that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, like, hey, I've got this coach now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to, you know, start my own business and I'm going to do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to leave this cushy corporate job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's really talking through those decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the work, the application.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, oh, I didn't realize that coaching would be work outside of this hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we were going to get all this condensed worked on in this moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, they, yes, and, but yes, and there's more to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, I always ask this of every guest because I think this almost needs like a two-part series because I think that the things that you teach are so applicable, you know, both from high school graduates who are trying to, you know, navigate and now that they have information that they're disposed of, they're pausing and saying, let me do a reflection before I get to that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have people who are graduating, they're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was going to be, you know, the market isn't the way that it was, you know, this is going to rough market for those that 20 to 25 year old range, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went to COVID, they went through another go through this, you know, post graduate where there's not a lot of positions that are available because of, you know, various factors in the market.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I think that, you know, everybody's kind of doing that self-reflection period, particularly now, but I will say that because of this digital era that we live in, it's democratized a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't have to sit back and wait for somebody to pick up my shell for my voice to be heard in the start of podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no waiting in your turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to be six feet tall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to have, you know, you know, it's not predicated on my athletic ability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's predicated on my preparedness and my ability to host a good show and I hope I can do that at same time and something good will come out of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really when you're you're going for it let's like you're just betting on yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like the bed isn't always going to pay off, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's those are those like little moments along the way like when you get your first note when you get your first like, you know, no show for an appointment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember like very early on my first coaching appointment and it was a no show and it was like, this is time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and again, but again, it was like, well, if I say this is a sign, what story am I telling myself?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, versus, hey, this is one out of, you know, millions of hours that could be going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And am I going to assign this that much importance?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or am I going to be like, hey, this sucks, I'm feeling this way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How can I change what's in my control?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how can I prepare for the next time that this will probably happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's prevent and prepare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell people really quickly before we obviously talk about you and where we cook and find you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You better have thick skin, excuse me, but I need thin skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you better have the ability to pivot real quick from disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and I do have been skin and so the thing is I will say if you are a sensitive person you have to have resources and support in place, know yourself and so if you're going to take if you don't take rejection very well some people are really fueled by it they're like yeah tell me know again right and I'm like no that's how we know again and um

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[SPEAKER_01]: what it is is have your support and your resources in place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about knowing yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, if I have thin skin, it doesn't mean I can't start a business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It means I have to know myself well enough to prepare for what those challenges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always ask this if I ever guess and I find this always fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I found myself repeating myself, but I would never stop asking this question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where can people find

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my website is just Liana Deligarza.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you'll find me on LinkedIn as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Cocie Coaching is on LinkedIn as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: K-O-S-C-I, for sure, I'd be your frozen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I don't know if I'm frozen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's Liana Deligarza.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a long one, so I'm going to spell it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: E-L-I-A-N-A-D-E-L-A-G-A-R-Z-A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So once you go through that, you know, literary journey of typing that in, then you can get to the website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's booking there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also want to say for coaching one of the most frustrating things for anyone that's ever tried to find a therapist is that it's like a very expensive dating experience where you're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just spent $125 to figure out, I don't think I want to work with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For coaching, I always do the first two sessions for free so we can figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just know that if you're like, hey, this sounds good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, we talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's wonderful because obviously people, you know, you're talking about people's lives and careers and they need to be aligned and you need to be aligned, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it's a two-way street.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, your service is a time we're just as valuable as that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it has always been a pleasure to talk to people who have carved out their own path, and this is what the randomness of nothing has always been about, and will continue to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it is an honor to pleasure that you took time out of your business schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so good talking to you, Rashad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that we stay in touch, and have a beautiful rest of your day, and thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do the same attacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.